Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP)

View previous topic View next topic Go down

EMP - Faraday Cages

Post by wannabemountainman on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 06:45

Faraday Cages

By Kellene Bishop


We’ve established that an EMP incident will fry all electronics. This occurs whether or not they are plugged in or turned on. This also affects automobiles, batteries, computers, medical equipment, etc. Needless to say, in such an instance, life as we know it will change dramatically. Even more distressing is the fact that the strike of an EMP is not likely to give any warning. You don’t see it. You don’t feel it. You are simply left with the sudden consequences and whatever preparedness you have on hand. So, other than your preparedness supplies, your new best friend may be a Faraday cage. In fact, with the knowledge of the protection that a Faraday cage can provide you, you may be able to enjoy nearly as comfortable a lifestyle as you did prior to any electromagnetic pulse.

While being mentally prepared to live in the Stone Age may be helpful, it’s not necessary. Aren’t you glad?

First of all, allow me to dispel some myths about Faraday cages—and boy, howdy, there are a LOT of them.

* Whether or not your electronics are plugged in, how long of an antenna you’ve got on something, what voltage it is, or whether or not they operate with batteries—all non-protected electronics will be affected by an EMP.
* Batteries will be affected, usually in the form of “shorting” as well.
* Electronic phone systems will also be damaged.
* Surge protectors are useless in the event of an EMP exposure.
* Just because your car has rubber tires, it will not be impervious to the effects of an EMP. Rubber containers are insufficient protection against an EMP.
* And oh yeah—yes, your Faraday cages DO need to be grounded. If it’s NOT grounded, then the Faraday cage merely becomes a reflector or an amplifier.
* Yes, a microwave can act as a Faraday cage, but why in the world would you want to use it for that? That’s just silly when you can make one simply.
* Faraday cages do not have to be solid, thus the name “cage” instead of the oft misused term—“box.” In fact, many of them that you can build yourself or will see on the internet will resemble a bird cage or a very finely meshed chicken coop wire.

* Also, contrary to what you may see on the internet, a sheet of foil on a box will not protect you. It’s not thick enough to withstand the pulse. However, you CAN protect your items if they are buried a couple of feet underground in every direction (up and sideways.)
* Last, but not least, a car is NOT a Faraday cage sufficient to withstand an EMP incident. It has some similar components, yes. Most cars made today consist of fiberglass and disjointed parts, not a continuous metal material. In addition to that, they are on tires. Tires on a car do NOT serve as grounding. Folks are simply getting an EMP strike confused with a lightening strike. Now, IF you had an old fashioned car that was made of metal, that had its tires removed, that was also attached to an Iron or copper pole and that was ALSO on dirt—not gravel—then yes, you may have a car that doubles as a Faraday cage. (Kind of like the old clunker my dad has out in his “back forty.”
* The cages do not have to be solid, but they do have to be constructed continuously without gaps between the protective material.

There. Now that we’ve discredited 90% of the internet information out there, let’s continue.



Faraday cages are named after Michael Faraday who invented them in 1836. They block out external electrostatic fields and electromagnetic radiation. One mistake many people make when it comes to an EMP is to compare it to a lighting bolt. The effects of an EMP and a direct lightening bolt are very similar, but they are not at all similar in terms of their visibility, and affect on the body. An EMP is more like a radio wave, not a visible bolt of light or electric current.

It’s the substrate layers of the diodes and transistors that make them susceptible to a magnetic pulse attack. Electronics are made up of diodes and transistors and substrate layers. A computer, car, television, and cell phones are made up of tons of transistors. When hit with a powerful magnetic pulse, the substrate layers are destroyed. However, early 1960’s and before electronics did not use substrate layers. They used vacuum tubes. This is why older electronics are less susceptible to damage. This is why a human or animal body will not be affected. Yes, our bodies consist of an electric volt. But understand there’s a difference between electricity and electronics.

I just want to reiterate this again. It’s important that any Faraday cage that you plan to use is grounded. It has to be grounded in order to disperse the energy.

What you should know though is that a Faraday cage is not fool proof. The higher the frequency of the magnetic pulse, the faster it is. This is what causes the burn out. The cages must be grounded, continuously connecting, and the openings of them cannot be too large. Chicken coop wire would work, but only if you double or even triple layered it as the opening are too large. For a reference of opening size, look at the front of your microwave door. It’s a small mesh. Just a like a snake can slither its way through the right sized hole, so can an electronic wave.


You can have an instant Faraday cage with a galvanized trash can or a large stock pot like they use in restaurants. (Be sure to clamp the lid down. Remember—continuous connection is key. Since Faraday cages are not fool proof, depending on the strength of the pulse, I would recommend burying such containers 2 feet under the ground, storing survival electrical and battery items. (Including batteries).

An easy way to make a Faraday cage would be to acquire some 2 x 4 brass mesh sheets. (Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel did a couple of experiments using this successfully.) Make a box frame with the 2 x 4’s and staple the brass mesh to the outside. Create a securely attached/connected access entry within the frame. Solder a ground wire to one of the corners and ground the cage. Scrap metal and mesh wires can easily be obtained in junk yards, on E-bay, the clay modeling section of a craft store, or at your local hardware or “farm and feed” store. The important aspect of this to remember though is that mesh or sheet metal only shields magnetic fields if the frequency is up in the RF range. To properly stop the wave, you need some iron, steel, or some slabs of thick copper. Most electronics are useful in the VHF/UHF/SHF range today and will need more substantial protection. Remember when you’re browsing the internet. Protecting against sparks is not the same as protecting against a strong magnetic pulse.

You can make your “cage” as small or as large as you’d like. It wouldn’t be out of the question to continuously line a basement storage room or hole in the ground with copper mesh wire and a grounding rod.

Bottom line, with an appropriately constructed Faraday cage, you can likely protect that which is inside from the electromagnetic attack of an EMP incident or solar flare, thus preserving the function of all that is contained therein. Here is a very simple example of how Faraday cages work. (DO NOT try this at home, please)

Note that the Peeps are put into a mesh bowl and covered with a mesh cover. They are then put in the microwave. The one Peep that wasn’t put in the microwave met his untimely death, while the others were still intact.

For a little bit of a science lesson on the workings of a Faraday cage, check out this YouTube link. The science professor is EXCELLENT. Note though that he does say that a car is a Faraday cage, however, I want to reiterate that it is NOT sufficient to extinguish the effects of an EMP attack.



Be selective in what you protect. It makes no sense to protect a cell phone, for example, as the cell towers will be useless. If it were me, I would protect radios, communication devices (such as a HAM radio), batteries and all of their respective tools, thumb drives loaded with all of my vital information, and a laptop. Keep in mind that a Faraday cage should be your LAST concern in terms of protecting every electronic that you enjoy presently. It’s not like if you preserve your television you’re going to have any “juice” to plug it into. Don’t focus on a Faraday cage and its time, effort, and expense at the risk of neglecting food, water, and medical supplies. It would be better for you to read up on solar power, wind and steam energy instead.

_________________
Your Bic Lighter and your pocket knife...Don't leave home without 'em!

“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.” W. Edwards Deming
avatar
wannabemountainman
Admin

Posts : 432
Join date : 2009-07-12
Age : 68
Location : M'boro UK

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodlife-People/230131547073521

Back to top Go down

EMP - Prepare Medically

Post by wannabemountainman on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 06:41

EMP 101: Part III—Prepare Medically
How to prepare medically for an EMP attack

By Kellene Bishop

When any natural disaster hits a region there will always be devastating consequences, particularly to those who are in ill health or who rely on medications and modern technology to get through their day. Unfortunately, without preparing medically, these individuals will be the first casualties of such a disaster. I understand that stating such a reality doesn’t make me popular or a preferred guest at your next dinner party, but I do feel compelled to teach you the real consequences of a crisis, while also teaching you to prepare medically so you can avoid being a death statistic.


First get the 10,000 foot view of how an EMP attack or a solar flare will affect your medical preparedness. ALL electrical gidgets and gadgets will be fried and made useless, regardless of whether or not they are turned on, plugged in, or out of their styro-foam box. So, if your “plan” is to race to Walgreens once you catch wind of an emergency, you’re in for a rude awakening. Medical supplies such as prescriptions run on a one day delivery schedule. That means that the most that pharmacies have on hand is ONE day of supplies for their regular number of customers. Regular, as in a peaceful, calm, normal day. If the “fit hits the shan,” you need to understand the mathematical problem in expecting your supplies will be on hand when you need them in a mass emergency situation. You will have LESS than 30 minutes to get there, get it, and get out. So you see why that’s not the best plan to prepare medically? What you should do is to have a frank conversation with your doctor, tell him that you want and need to prepare medically for an emergency, and ask for a 1 to 3 month supply of your medications in addition to what you need to be taking. So long as your prescription is not a controlled substance, you should be able to make a convincing argument to prepare medically.

If you are dealing with diabetic issues in which you need insulin, get what you can as a supply AND store advanced technology ice packs to prepare medically. There are kinds of ice packs that look like a pox-marked quilt that stay frozen and distribute the cold for longer periods of time than simple ice. There are also gel packs that can be heated or frozen. They hold their temperature a lot longer than ice. Keep in mind, if you store your insulin in the refrigerator, dramatically limit opening that refrigerator. You will be able to keep it cool for a 50% longer period of time. Other preparedness methods that you should explore are solar energy generators sufficient only to run a small refrigerator, a “solar oven” that converts to a refrigerator at night and how to construct an electricity free refrigerator (see Google). Our forefathers did without electricity and so can we if need be.


Another suggestion to prepare medically is for you to be certain that you are storing nutritious foods. I hear folks frequently tell me that they will be able to survive off of their food storage simply because of all of the boxes they have of Kraft Mac and Cheese. I assure you, that is not surviving. It’s barely even living. In an emergency situation your body is naturally in a heightened state of stress. Your body needs MORE nutrition to “survive”, let alone to thrive. Stress compromises your entire health system—especially your immune system. Having proper nutrition in a crisis situation is the utmost of importance. Multi-vitamins, essential oils, quality grains, sprouting supplies, etc. will all be crucial to you surviving not only an existing medical crisis, but one that may occur due to your circumstances as well. You can not underestimate the power of nutrition for your health—especially in an emergency.

It’s easy for us in this country to become complacent with all that medical technology will do for us that we aren’t willing to do for ourselves. On New Years Day this year, I looked at my nightstand and was struck by how many prescription bottles I had that I needed to take everyday. I suddenly became very aware of how those prescriptions would compromise my ability to survive and emergency. Thus in the name of emergency preparedness I made a vow that I would eliminate the need for all of them this year if it were at all possible. As of May, I have eliminated all but one of these meds by being more conscientious of what I eat, how active I am physically, and using nutrition as my medicine instead of just as my food. (Please consult your physician before attempting this.)

For the first 8 years of my marriage, my husband’s breakfast consisted of two handfuls of peanut M&M’s, a Cherry Coke, and a bag of Cheetos (he fondly called it “Vitamin C3”). Throughout the day he would eat Lindt chocolate and any other kind of sweets that sounded appetizing. I couldn’t get that man to eat veggies unless it was on a slab of beef. Healthy, eh? However, one day it hit him that he didn’t want to be a slave to these kinds of foods in an emergency. So he went from a sugar addict to a “no sugar guy” overnight. He’s now 2 years “sober”—all in the name of emergency preparedness. He also runs up “Y” mountain in Provo, Utah every morning while stopping long enough to do a total of 600 push-ups along the way. Each day it’s being prepared for an emergency that motivates him. (Please consult a psychologist before attempting this! Smile )

While it’s not realistic to arm yourself with a year’s supply of medicine, you can arm yourself with as much health and strength as you can possibly store AND you can also have a year’s high-quality nutritional products on hand. I’m not talking about diet shakes. I’m talking about products such as Reliv, Sunrider, Young Living, Xooma’s water sachets, etc. Worst case scenario, stocking up on some Ensure may save your life if you can’t get the other products. I don’t recommend nutritional products such as these to make money in an “MLM.” I recommend products like these to literally save your life. (Which is exactly why I’m NOT going to provide you with contact information for these products. Please Google them.)

Increase your knowledge of the use of essential oils, herbs, and alternative medicines. There is an abundance of information freely available. Even cancer can be appeased with alternative medicine (click here) All of these chemicals we take have their own natural origins. Go to the source. Even diabetes can be made less severe with essential oils and herbs (click here).

Lastly, in order to prepare medically you need to keep in mind that in the event of an EMP attack, it’s not likely that you will have any notice. Unlike a tornado warning, you won’t be able to go underground for safety. BUT…if you DO have such a warning, then be prepared to flee into or to store vital items immediately in a Faraday cage or like protection. (More info on that coming up this week.) If you have a pacemaker or oxygen machine, get yourself as far below ground as possible.

The bottom line is, we do not have to be helpless medically in any event with some concentrated efforts to prepare medically now. Remember, you won’t be able to rely on hospitals, doctors or emergency services to help amidst a catastrophic event (Think Hurricane Katrina). But as you prepare medically, you can be self-sufficient with mental and physical preparedness now.

_________________
Your Bic Lighter and your pocket knife...Don't leave home without 'em!

“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.” W. Edwards Deming
avatar
wannabemountainman
Admin

Posts : 432
Join date : 2009-07-12
Age : 68
Location : M'boro UK

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodlife-People/230131547073521

Back to top Go down

EMP - The Aftermath

Post by wannabemountainman on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 06:32

The Aftermath

By Kellene Bishop

Yesterday we discussed the reality of an EMP attack on the U.S. and today we will bring the aftermath of an EMP attack a bit closer so that we can mentally go through the various ramifications. If you mentally prepare, even little by little, you will be significantly better off.


The Aftermath Reality #1: Since an EMP essentially fries anything electric, this means most automobiles post-1970 will be useless. This may explain why my husband’s dream car as of late is a 1967 Ford Bronco. Smile As early as 1970, key components of automobiles were made with electrical parts. You’re well aware that some models today brag about being completely electrical. This will be problem with an EMP. If you’re driving your beautiful Cooper car when an EMP strikes, you won’t feel the road rattle. You won’t hear a noise. Your automobile will simply stop dead in its tracks. Be prepared mentally for alternative transportation. For me that’s “hoofing it” so I have a couple pairs of good shoes in storage, and made sure that my bikes have several tire repair kits to go with them. You may also want to consider having a “li’l red wagon” or something that you can easily push and pull with supplies or your passengers therein. This is not to say that you will have to flee where you are when an EMP hits, but as the aftermath becomes a way of life, you will have to travel at some point even if it’s just a mile or so. Personally, I will want to be able to travel so that I can check on other individuals and deliver any aid I may be able to.


The Aftermath Reality #2: The most vital services that will be destroyed in an EMP attack are communications. Telephones, radio, walkie-talkies, etc. Can you imagine what life will be like in the aftermath without these luxuries? And to think we mock individuals who don’t have texting abilities nowadays. Smile This is yet another reason why you will want to make sure your walking shoes or your bike are ready for use—delivering messages.

While your challenge will be wide scale, without proper communication you’ll feel like you’re on you very own little planet. One of the recommendations I make to prepare for the aftermath is to take the time to get your HAM radio license, appropriate equipment, and THEN be sure that it’s kept out of range of an EMP strike. This can be accomplished in different ways, but the most popular is a Faraday cage.


You can easily create a Faraday cage which will protect most electronics from an EMP attack. We’ll talk more about Faraday cages later in this series. (Sorry, I haven’t found a contractor yet who can do this to my whole house.) You can actually obtain a Faraday cage from a business that’s going under that has been using one for their server room. I’ve even found decent sized Faraday cages on E-bay. Then again you can also use materials of your own for such storage with aluminum foil, mesh copper or brass sheeting, a cheap “space blanket” made of Mylar, or even an oversized stock pot! There are Faraday blankets available as well.

The Aftermath Reality #3: The banking industry will be destroyed with one pulse. No ATMs, folks. You will be unable to buy any goods without cash. (We’ll see how long human nature allows such civil transactions to take place before burglary and looting commences.) You will be unable to fill your car with gasoline, even if it is an older model. Gas pumps are operated electronically nowadays. Your home security system will be useless. You won’t be able to rely on the television and video games to entertain your children. And you’ll have to be sure to have an alternative way to cook your meals—as well as the knowledge necessary to cook in such a manner. There will be no refrigeration. So either keep your freezer and refrigerator closed for as long as possible, or start canning meats and such and eating the foods in the freezer first.


The Aftermath Reality #4: Lastly, consider the medical implications of an EMP attack. Obtaining medications that we are accustomed to using will be virtually impossible. Those individuals who rely on medical technology to survive in their homes will be at the highest risk in the aftermath of an EMP attack. Unlike our food supply which relies on a three day delivery cycle, our medical supplies largely rely on a one day delivery cycle. So what can you do to prepare? First make sure you have as many medical supplies on hand that you can obtain such as pain relievers, cough and cold remedies, anti-bacterial creams, hydrogen peroxide, rubbing alcohol, cotton balls, heat packs, essential oils, and your own medications. (Just so you know, since I use coupons, I get the majority of these items really cheap or for free!)

Next, do all you can do now to get as healthy as possible without medication. When I started out this year I had a stark moment of realization. I looked at my nightstand and saw 7 prescription bottles. I knew that such reliance would hinder me dramatically if we were to encounter a true emergency, so I made the goal to get healthy so that I could eliminate all of them. It’s been 6 months and I’ve eliminated all but one of them by focusing on the use of high quality nutritional products. I may not be able to store a year’s worth of medications properly, but I CAN store a year’s worth of nutritional products that help me replace the chemical alternatives.

To recap, prepare your mind and your body for the aftermath of an EMP attack, and you won’t end up being the star of your own Armageddon story.

_________________
Your Bic Lighter and your pocket knife...Don't leave home without 'em!

“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.” W. Edwards Deming
avatar
wannabemountainman
Admin

Posts : 432
Join date : 2009-07-12
Age : 68
Location : M'boro UK

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodlife-People/230131547073521

Back to top Go down

EMP - The Likelihood

Post by wannabemountainman on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 06:26










EMP 101: Part I








What You Need to Know About the Likelihood of an EMP Attack on the U.S.


A Multi-Part Preparedness Series


By Kellene Bishop


 EMP 101: Part II recently finished reading two GREAT books, back to back, that are fictional scenarios about an EMP (electro magnetic pulse) attack on the U.S. Both books are very well written, extremely realistic, and I had a hard time putting them down. The first one (still my all time favorite) was “Alas, Babylon” by Pat Frank. The second, as recommended by many readers on this site was “One Second After” by William R. Forstchen. (Warning, occasional language in this book qualifies it as “rated PG-13”) Both authors are so expert in their fields of knowledge on the matters which they write, that I feel the books are more a prediction of things to come, rather than a work of fiction. Out of all of the possible scenarios of a man-made crisis, the most likely to occur against the U.S. is an EMP attack. However, what disturbed me so greatly is the majority of the pain and suffering in either of the books could have been substantially negated with the addition of a very legitimate reality in my world—a years supply of emergency food, water, and other items.


For those of you who may not be aware, the U.S. has received countless amounts of intelligence that an EMP attack is very likely. (Google EMP attack + U.S.) More recently, China has even admitted to preparing an EMP to “use on its enemies.” It’s no surprise that N. Korea has been playing with nukes lately. And contrary to the naïve understanding of many Americans, the Soviets have also been dedicating a great deal of their resources towards the perfection of nuclear attacks. In all actuality, an EMP attack could be done in such a way that we wouldn’t necessarily have any way of knowing WHO launched the attack against us (as accurately portrayed in Forstchen’s book).



About 8 years ago an officially commissioned report was released about the potential catastrophic consequences of an EMP attack over the U.S.  Newt Gingrich specifically stated in response to this report, “this is not idle speculation but taken from the consensus finding of nine distinguished American scientists who authored the “Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack.” Unfortunately, since the report was issued on the very same day as the 9/11 Commissions Report, it went largely unheeded and unnoticed by the press.


(Author’s note: Please don’t pommel me with requests for the references I’ve researched on these statements. I regularly use hard-copy books, library micro-fiche records, internet, personal interviews and read several newspapers weekly. On a cursory view, these statements are verifiable in newspapers abundantly available on the internet. My job as a writer is to condense information so that it’s easily digestible. If you doubt the veracity of what I write, then there is essentially nothing you can rely on in the content I provide.)


 EMP 101: Part IAn EMP attack is implemented by launching a nuclear bomb high in the earth’s atmosphere (greater than 25 miles). The detonation causes gamma rays to interact with air molecules to produce positive ions while at the same time recoiling electrons. What ultimately happens is that the positive ions overtake the electrons and as such, when they encounter the earth’s magnetic field it radiates an instantaneous electromagnetic pulse. The pulse essentially fries all electrical devices, including batteries. This same kind of reaction is possible with small solar flares. The pulse is intense but it is not visible and it does no damage to the human body. One of these EMP strikes strategically launched over Kansas could obliterate electrical operations throughout the entire U.S.


So why is an EMP attack more viable than an all out war or a nuclear bomb attack? Well it boils down to dollars and conquering. Why spends billions of dollars and countless lives on fighting an all out war when you can launch an EMP attack, wait it out for several months, and then come in and clean up the few that survived? For only a few thousand dollars each, 3 SCUD missiles can be launched off of a ship in the middle of the waters off of our coast, high up into the atmosphere. It’s not like we’d see “incoming SCUDs”. If we’re lucky we’ll simply see something launched into space. Several billions of dollars can be saved for any enemy when such a strategy is used. With this strategy countless numbers of soldiers, death camps, and an arsenal of bullets is not necessary. Human nature and our reliance on Prozac and technology will easily kill off the weak in a matter of days. Additionally, while the land of the U.S. is rich in resources, access to those resources is impeded if there is no population to harvest them. So using an EMP attack vs. something more deadly that would contaminate the very land an enemy wishes to possess is not in their best strategic interest either. Considering that an EMP attack would make us helpless to communicate or travel effectively, all an enemy has to do is wipe out our electricity, wait several months, and watch how the effects of such an attack kill off the weak, weaken the spirits of the strong, and then come and clean up what’s left. Bottom line, it’s less expensive and less messy for our nation’s enemies to use an EMP attack on us than anything else. Mother Nature and the ugly side of human nature is the ally of our enemy and will work in concert successfully with such an attack. The key to any successful attack is knowing your enemy’s vulnerability. Clearly, technology is our Achilles heel here in the U.S. and it would take very little money and effort to wipe us out.


If an EMP attack were launched against the Philippines, it would make a very small impact comparatively. The Filipinos are used to sporadic technology availability, living off of what they produce, minimal medical access, and a scarcity of food and good drinking water. Heck, they haven’t even progressed to doing their laundry on a washboard yet. They’re still pounding their clothes against rocks in the rivers. But the U.S.? We are a nation of overly medicated, out of shape, pampered, spoiled and indulgent citizens. Don’t underestimate the destruction that can be had simply by the emotional impact of such an attack on the generation of the “entitlement mentality.”


Photo c/o Mark Lennihan / AP file

Photo c/o Mark Lennihan / AP file



So, what does all of this mean to you? It means that you need to begin seeing your world differently—NOW. While I will be writing a multi-part series on an EMP attack to shed some light on various aspects of your survival, it’s important that you begin NOW to look around you and be aware. What do you currently rely on that is operated by electricity that you would have NO ability to use after an EMP? Cooking. Driving. Medical? Communications? Whatever the answer is you need to prepare yourself mentally and physically to battle such instances. Some scenarios may be trivial ones of inconvenience. Yet some may be life or death—all because the power goes out indefinitely.


As I said in the beginning, the only problem I had with these stories is that the suffering of people portrayed on the pages was not realistic in MY world. A shortage of food, pain relievers, clothing, bedding, personal hygiene items, water, heat, light, and knowledge is NOT going to happen in my home. I’m prepared specifically for such a realistic situation. Ask yourself, are you? Then again, the authors most likely wouldn’t have sold a single book had they focused on how a prepared person would encounter a disaster vs. the majority of the U.S. population. Guess that would be a pretty boring storing only pertinent for the Discovery Channel. <img src=


_________________
Your Bic Lighter and your pocket knife...Don't leave home without 'em!

“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.” W. Edwards Deming
avatar
wannabemountainman
Admin

Posts : 432
Join date : 2009-07-12
Age : 68
Location : M'boro UK

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodlife-People/230131547073521

Back to top Go down

Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP)

Post by wannabemountainman on Wed 16 Dec 2009, 06:11


_________________
Your Bic Lighter and your pocket knife...Don't leave home without 'em!

“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.” W. Edwards Deming
avatar
wannabemountainman
Admin

Posts : 432
Join date : 2009-07-12
Age : 68
Location : M'boro UK

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodlife-People/230131547073521

Back to top Go down

Re: Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP)

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum